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(Monday, June 8, 12:00 Noon -12:30 p.m.)


Division Ill's session was an excellent one. A discussion centered around Proposal Seven, playin! and practice seasons in Division III. Following a lively give and take session, a group straw vote supported the legislation 27-2. Concern was expressed by a minority that the legislation was not restrictive enough, but the majority felt that the legislation provided a good starting point. Following the discussion and what I thought was an excellent discussion, the members suggested issues they they would like the Division III Steering Committee to address as they prepare for the '88 Convention in Nashville. Overall, I think it was an excellent session and I hope we can continue in this format.


Bob Moorman, Commissioner of the Central Intercollegiate Athletics Association.


Thank you a lot, Joan. We really had more people at our session than we got here now. Truthful we had a very good give and take session. We had CEOs come in and give their viewpoint about various things and then we had a give and take among the group and I think we covered a lot of good points. One thing we are trying to do, and we are going to make a very strong effort, is not to try to do everything Division I does. You do something, we have to do it --some people have that opinion, but we feel that we are different in many ways and we don't have to do exactly what Division I does. May one day you will let us meet closer to you so we can get back here quicker. We did have a super session and I think we brought out a lot of things that are important and one of the main things we brought out and tried to emphasize is more Division II athletic directors should come into this sessi this meeting, and become really a true integrated part of the athletic directors association.


Denis Lambert, University of Vermont.


Thank you, Joan. We had a good turnout also and there was considerable discussion over some of the proposed legislation. On limitations of the playing season, there was some real concern about s sports as gymnastics and swimming, and the concern that they may turn to organizations such as the AA or the YMCA to be able to circumvent the 26 weeks. There were some concerns in the sunbelt about th length of 26 weeks in dealing with baseball, since they start from September in the fall through Christmas and then start January lst through May. There were some views about the use of athletic facilities in the off-season and some of the limitations and concerns that, while larger schools may have conditioning, other schools may not have that ability to do such things. There was concern abo1 whether or not indoor soccer would be included because indoor soccer uses six players. A lot of the legislation impies you use less than the number of players you would use on a normal soccer team and, therefore, it wouldn't count as part of the season. In talking to Bill Hunt tnat certainly will not take place, it will count and it will be part of it. It would have been helpful, obviously, if we had had someone from the NCAA to answer some of these questions, which would alleviate some of the problems. We took a straw vote on Proposition 2 and it seems no one was in support of Proposition 2 as a whole. We supposed that would be broken down, probably, when we get to Dallas in individual sessions. Then there was a question of championships in the fall. We discussed that and we came to conclusion that, obviously, this was a cost-cutting legislation session and that they were going to add more cost. Even though it does make some sense to many of the northern tier schools to do that, would be a good thing maybe to have something like it, but obviously, it would cost an awful lot of money. We had a good session and I thank everyone here and appreciate the people who came and joinel us.


Charlotte West was the moderator for I-AA, and she wins the delegation award because she Barbara Hollmann from the University of Montana to give her report.


Charlotte said I was the mouthpiece for the I-AA. We got into taking an awful lot of straw votes and Bob Moorman just told me they cut them down. I don't know how I can assimilate all these straw votes, but I will try as we go through here. There was no support to eliminate spring football on the part of the I-AA people. There is concern or interest in remaining relatively close to what the I-A people are doing with their spring football, so we will be listening to what the I-A discussions involve there. There was no interest in the spring and fall sport division or championship concept. We also felt it was easier to control playing and practices by dates rather than by hours of the day and days of the week. There was some interest in reducing financial aid in football and basketball, as well as all other sports, as cost-saving methods, stronger support for some of those measures than others but overalliht~r~ in reducing, again with an eye on what the Division I-A people might be doing in their sports. There was strong support for going to the head and six football coaches and also strong support for allowing greater flexibility with basketball coaching staffs, in allowing one part-timer as part of the "other" category along with a graduate assistant or a volunteer. Manyof us come from institutions where we have essentially a volunteer, who we would like to give a stipend of $1,000 or $1,500, which in essence makes them a part-time coach, but they're actually getting less than a graduate assistant. We may not have graduate programs or they may not have interest in being a graduate student, so that essentially eliminates that extra staff person and forces them to become a volunteer or graduate student. There is support from the I-AAs to have fewer paid visits in football and basketball, fewer contacts, tightening down on recruiting. Overall, in I-AA we are well aware of cost-containment issues and will support it if we all did it together. There is also interest in the five seasons of competition at leastihteres;t in discussing it and looking at the advantages of the five seasons of competition. There is concern about what the reasons for opposition might be in view of recent research results and cost-containment concerns, freshman eligibility and graduation rate issues that we have been discussing. That's essentially our good discussion from I-AA.


As I mentioned, in I-A we did roundtables, and if by the volumes of discussion, it could be determined a success, we were very successful. Homer Rice will give the I-A report.


Thank you, Joan. As Joan mentioned we divided up into II tables. We had ten 9r more at a table and there was much dialogue and very intersting things came out of it. The most interesting thing that came out of it was the consensus that we should not have a convention in June, they voted on that unanimously. But since we are going to have a convention, these are some of the things that came out of it. We certainly should be alert during the forum because this could identify the real issues. I don't think our people feel like there's too much to be gained with cost-containment during this convention; in fact, we figured out that it is going to cost us more to go there than what we might save in being there. So the most important thing will be the forum, what generates from that and the resolutions that are set forth and expect to be set forth from that point on. On Division I-A spring football practice, the proposal to reduce it from 36 days to 30 days, the majority is for that proposal. Also, an amendment to that to leave the 36 days there and keep the 15 days contact only, that the majority would be for that also. There is opposition to reducing the total number of football grants, there is much opposition to that. On the coaching staff, it is kind of mixed, but as I counted the group will be in opposition to this also. On turning back the number of official visits, they are also in opposition to that. The playing season is one where there is a lot of dialogue going on. In football and basketball in Division I-A and Division I we have a playing season, practice season, limit on time and the number of games, etc. We do not have that in other sports, so that was a study that came out of the sports committees regarding reducing playing seasons to a six-month period and, of course, having the number of contests in that time period. There was a lot of dialogue on that. Some felt the number of games or contests crowded into a six-month period would be unfair to the student- athlete. A lot feel that some are taining for Olympics and amateur sports and need this extra time, and how would they do it all if it was cut back to six months? I believe what really came out of this is a philosophy that we continue to meet. The dialogue is very important to this group, as it is to all groups, and the table discussions allow each person to express their feelings and get a report back from them. So, in general, it was a good session and what really came out of it is that we should continue this type of procedure.


We started this morning with Peter Ueberroth giving us what I thought was a great motivational speech talking about teamwork and people who care, and I think that's what NACDA is all about. We ended today with a lot of dialogue from a lot of divisions and I think it is going to take teamwork to make it work. I read somewhere where a person's success is measured by the quality of people they surround themselves with. Athletics has been successful because of the quality of people we have and I think these exchanges today have shown that. I would like to close the session today and get ready for the luncheon with a saying I heard Alex Haley, the author, say. He said, "you see a turtle sitting on top of a fencepost, you know somebody helped him get there." I think we are turtles and we a giant turtle sitting on top of that fencepost and it has taken a lot of people to help us get there and it is going to take a lot of people to help us stay there. Thank you.